Woman Who Stuck by ISIS Through Defeats Shows No Regret

Woman Who Stuck by ISIS Through Defeats Shows No Regret
ISIS members walk in the last besieged neighborhood in the village of Baghouz, Deir Al Zor province in Syria, on Feb. 18, 2019. Rodi Said/Reuters
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NEAR BAGHOUZ, Syria-Heading to a camp for displaced people as ISIS’s territorial “caliphate” in Iraq and Syria faces final defeat, Ghalia Ali shows no regret about abandoning her life as a student in Tunisia to join the militants in 2014.

The young Tunisian-French woman was among truckloads of civilians leaving the militants’ last enclave in eastern Syria.

Like Ali, many were relatives of ISIS fighters who have followed the group during years of retreat until it fell back to the village of Baghouz, now besieged by the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

“God’s world is big. The most important thing is that I do not return to France or Tunisia,” she told Reuters, saying life had been “impossible” for her in both places because of her decision to wear the full Islamic face veil, or niqab.

Accompanied only by her two young children at a checkpoint on the edge of Baghouz on Friday, Ali said she did not know what had happened to her Syrian husband from Latakia, an ISIS fighter who traveled with her to the village near the Iraqi border.

“He is somewhere ... currently I truly don’t know where,” said Ali, laughing faintly beneath her veil.

A boy holds her mother's hand as they wait to be screened after being evacuated out of the last territory held by ISIS, near Baghouz, eastern Syria, on Feb. 22, 2019. (Felipe Dana/AP Photo)
A boy holds her mother's hand as they wait to be screened after being evacuated out of the last territory held by ISIS, near Baghouz, eastern Syria, on Feb. 22, 2019. Felipe Dana/AP Photo

Ali and her children, a girl aged nearly three, and an 18-month-old boy, were headed to the al-Hol camp in SDF-controlled northeast Syria.

The SDF has said it wants all civilians evacuated from Baghouz before it launches a final assault to defeat or force surrender on the remaining fighters. The U.S.-led coalition has described those left inside as the “most hardened” ISIS militants.

The SDF has not ruled out the possibility that some militants have crept out, hidden among the civilians. Warplanes flew overhead on Friday as the evacuation continued, but there was no sound of bombing or clashes.

Adversity in Final Enclave

Ali, who entered Syria from Turkey, lived under ISIS rule in towns including Jarablus, which was captured by Turkish forces and their Syrian allies in 2016, and in the jihadists’ de facto capital at Raqqa, which was seized by the SDF in 2017.

She spoke fondly of the last spell living in adversity in the final ISIS enclave. “In Baghouz, especially in the last period, I learnt perhaps all the principles of life,” she said.

Women and children exit the back of a truck, part of a convoy evacuating hundreds out of the last territory held by ISIS in Baghouz, eastern Syria, on Feb. 22, 2019. (Felipe Dana/AP Photo)
Women and children exit the back of a truck, part of a convoy evacuating hundreds out of the last territory held by ISIS in Baghouz, eastern Syria, on Feb. 22, 2019. Felipe Dana/AP Photo

It was the end point in a journey that started in Tunisia after the 2011 revolution that heralded the Arab uprisings, sweeping out the leaders of Libya, Egypt, and Yemen, and presaging Syria’s own 8-year war.

Under the ousted Tunisian leader Zine al-Abidin Ben Ali, there was a “very harsh constraint on Muslims,” she said. She herself had not been particularly pious at that point, but something changed when she saw veiled Libyan women who had come to Tunis after their own uprising.

“I saw a woman wearing niqab, I was afraid as it was something strange in Tunis,” Ali said. Adopting the dress herself, she then faced difficulties continuing her studies at the French Institute in Tunis and, for several months, in Toulouse in France, where full-face veils are banned.

Along with her mother, who went with her to Syria, Ali joined ISIS after being won over by one of its propaganda videos. She said she had been disowned by her brother who serves in the French army, which belongs to the coalition backing the SDF.

The gradual defeat of the militant group’s “caliphate” has rescued millions of people from draconian laws, harsh punishments and, for minorities, slaughter or sexual slavery.

Ali said she would meet at the camp with her mother, who had already quit Baghouz. “God will fix things for me,” she said.

By Rodi Said