The RCMP has sent officers in uniform and marked police cars to have a “visible presence” at locations where alleged secret Chinese police stations are operating in Toronto and Vancouver, says RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki.
Lucki told MPs on the House committee on Canada-China relations that the RCMP had sent the police presence to “cause disruption to the allegations” that the locations have been serving as unofficial Chinese police service stations.
“We’ve had that visible presence and that’s mostly so that people will see the [RCMP’s] actions, first of all, because we need more information,” she said on Feb. 6.
Lucki indicated that the strategy has been successful, saying that “a lot of people come forward to provide information because they see the police in the area dealing with the allegations.”
“We haven’t heard very many new complaints on those three stations in Toronto and the one in Vancouver as a result of the disruption that we have done with those particular locations,” she said.
Lucki also confirmed the RCMP are currently investigating three of the alleged police stations in Toronto and one in Vancouver.
A senior RCMP officer told MPs at the committee meeting that the Chinese police stations in Canada and around the world are “concerning” due to the potential for forced repatriation of individuals to China, as well as the intimidation of Chinese nationals’ family members at home and abroad.
“These alleged police stations may contribute to the involuntary return of individuals to China. Also, families living in both China and Canada may become the target of harassment, intimidation, or experience other negative consequences,” said Brigitte Gauvin, RCMP acting director for federal policing and national security.
Lucki told the committee that so far no one has been arrested or deported in relation to the Chinese police stations.
Unofficial Chinese Police Stations
The RCMP said in a statement last November that it is seeking witnesses with knowledge of “possible foreign actor interference” at undeclared Chinese police service stations in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA).The specific addresses of those three stations in the GTA were mentioned in a local Chinese government news release: one is in a convenience store in Scarborough, one is at a residential home in Markham, and the third is a property that is also the headquarters of the Canada Toronto FuQing Business Association (CTFQBA), a federally incorporated non-profit.
“We did a disruption by going in uniform with marked police cars, to speak with the people involved in those police stations, or those locations, because those locations are a legitimate business in the front,” Lucki said, adding that the Chinese outposts do not resemble standard police stations.
“It’s any place that is causing interference or intimidation, harassment to individuals in any form. ... In some of these cases, it could be as simple as a room behind a commercial retail store,” she said.
This includes two more Chinese police stations identified in Vancouver, whose specific addresses weren’t provided.
The police conducted interviews there and in the surrounding neighbourhood, but declined to disclose the nature of their investigation.
Stations Shut Down
Authorities in over a dozen countries have been investigating the Chinese police service stations allegedly operating in their territories, with some stations being shut down.Bloc Québécois MP Denis Trudel questioned Lucki at the Feb. 6 committee on whether Canada could learn from other countries in shuttering the stations more efficiently.
“I saw in Ireland and the Netherlands that the so-called police stations have been shut down,” said Trudel.
“How did they go about doing that in those countries? Did they proceed by investigation like we’re undertaking in Canada? Did it take months? Did it take years? What process was undertaken in those countries?”
Lucki said in response that police investigations have to meet the threshold of Canada’s Criminal Code.
“We have to meet the threshold of the evidence in order to bring somebody to court [in] shutting them down,” she said.