Epstein and Bill Clinton Flew Together, Maxwell Confirms in Newly Unsealed Deposition

Ghislaine Maxwell appears via video link during her arraignment hearing where she was denied bail for her role aiding Jeffrey Epstein to recruit and eventually abuse minor girls, in Manhattan Federal Court, in the Manhattan borough of New York City, on July 14, 2020. Jane Rosenberg/Reuters

Ghislaine Maxwell, a longtime associate of deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, confirmed in a newly unsealed 2016 deposition that she had flown together with Epstein and former President Bill Clinton.

The deposition, from a now-settled civil defamation lawsuit against Maxwell by accuser Virginia Giuffre, contains countless instances of Maxwell evading lawyers’ questions. Epstein described Maxwell—a longtime member of Epstein’s inner circle—as his “best friend” in a 2003 Vanity Fair piece.

At one point in the deposition, Maxwell is asked by Guiffre’s lawyer Sigrid McCawley: “You did fly on planes, Jeffrey Epstein’s planes with President Clinton, is that correct?”

Maxwell replied: “I have flown, yes.”

Maxwell has long been accused of helping groom minor girls for Epstein. Multiple alleged victims of Epstein have accused Maxwell of luring them into his trafficking circle, where they said they were sexually abused by him and other powerful people.

In follow-up questions, Maxwell was asked: “When you were on the plane with Jeffrey and President Clinton, did you observe Jeffrey and [REDACTED] talking?”

“I’m sure they did,” Maxwell replied.

When asked if Epstein and the individual whose name was redacted seemed friendly, Maxwell said, “I don’t recollect.”

Laura Menninger, Maxwell’s attorney, didn’t immediately respond to an emailed request for comment.

Clinton flew on Epstein’s jet, infamously dubbed the “Lolita Express,” at least 26 times, according to records obtained by Fox News in 2016. In a July 2019 statement, Clinton denied ever visiting Epstein’s private island and said he had only traveled on the plane four times.

In 2019, a day before Epstein was found dead in his cell, nearly 2,000 pages of documents relating to him were unsealed, including claims from Giuffre that she was directed by Maxwell to have sex with a number of rich and powerful men, including Epstein.

In those unsealed documents, a section titled “New York Presbyterian Hospital Records” detailed how Giuffre had “provided extensive medical records in this case, including medical records from the time when Defendant was sexually abusing and trafficking her.”

According to the 2016 transcript, which contained countless redactions, Maxwell was asked about her relationship with Epstein and of the allegations by Giuffre.

“I never saw any inappropriate underage activities with Jeffrey ever,” Maxwell said.

“I can’t testify to what Jeffrey did or didn’t do,” Maxwell said. “I can only testify to what I know and the fact that she (Giuffre) has lied about me from the beginning to the end and repeatedly causes me to question anything that she may feel.”

The deposition and other documents were cleared for release after the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan on Oct. 19 rejected Maxwell’s “meritless” arguments that her interests outweighed the presumption that the public should see the materials.

Maxwell was arrested on July 2 in Bradford, New Hampshire. She previously lived for years with Epstein and was his frequent travel companion on trips around the world. If convicted, she faces up to 35 years in prison. A trial is scheduled for July 2021.

During the 2016 deposition, Maxwell was asked how many times she had flown on Jeffrey Epstein’s planes.

“Too many times,” she replied.

Maxwell said she was employed by Epstein and hired assistants, architects, decorators, cooks, cleaners, gardeners, pool people, and pilots as part of the upkeep of six homes, according to the transcript, which takes up 418 pages.

In one instance, Maxwell acknowledged that “a very small part of my job was from time to time to find adult professional massage therapists for Jeffrey.”

Maxwell appeared evasive as a lawyer pressed her on whether she hired Giuffre to give Epstein an erotic massage.

“Virginia Roberts [Giuffre] held herself out as a masseuse and invited herself to come and give a massage,” Maxwell testified.

Reuters contributed to this report.